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Old 06-10-2009, 03:52 AM
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like anything worth while it has to be orginized ... all forums have a "black blue purple mod" ""room"" or does everyone just communicate with thier minds....duh...its for the sole purpose of making surferspoker the best forum on the internet
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Allow Pogo in the greenroom - but secretly setup a new even more exclusive club called the blackroom

Then after a littlle while , "accidentally" let slip about the black room and when Pogo asks what it is , just say "Its nothing - just a place where the most important members of the forum hang out and discuss changes and make decisions regarding the site - nothing you'd be interested in "

This would be entertaining
Lol. This is way too funny man. Seriously, Im cracking up and cant stop laughing. Kind of mean but too funny!


But, to get on topic, PoGo decided to leave the forum and has done so. So what the hell is the point of this thread??

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Old 06-10-2009, 11:19 AM
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i think shimo should keep his nose out of business that's not his business. it's not up to you to decide that pogo deserves to be in the greenroom.

this is not the first thread you set up to get pogo in the greenroom. You did that a while back as well, in which you were put back in your place as well as that thread got locked.

greenroom access is given by venice after a greenroom member is nominated to be in, and the majority of the other greenroom members have voted in favour of the nominated member.

as i know you're not in the greenroom, and as i know greenroom nominations are never taken outside the greenroom, this thread is pointless, and will not have the slightest influence on pogo joining the greenroom or not.
also 'm pretty sure this is something that will go against you if you were to be nominated to be in the greenroom

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i think shimo should keep his nose out of business that's not his business. it's not up to you to decide that pogo deserves to be in the greenroom.
Jappie, given that the GreenRoom determines the direction of the site, I believe it's the business of everyone who is an active member of the Surfers community. Although I may not have a vote on who is admitted into the Green Room, it does not mean that my voice should not be heard.

As I said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the thread locked, as that was the outcome of "Pogo for the Green Room 2008." However, I do believe that it's a completely reasonable topic for discussion.

As for this counting against me in future nominations for the Green Room, that's fine with me. If the Green Room panelists feel that being vocal about ones opinions is a bad thing, then I'd be happy to be left off the Green Room roster.

Liberty comes with many responsibilities. One of those responsibilities is to make known any perceived transgressions against oneself, other individuals, or the masses as a whole.

If the Green Room really is merely a board upon which certain members are privy to posting about other members who they don't like as much, then so be it. However, I've always envisioned the Green Room as something better than that. I envision it as a sub-segment of the forum in which ideas, such as this one, are carefully considered and open to reasonable debate.

It is out of respect for the Green Room and its members that I put up this post to begin with. I didn't want to believe that the Green Room members would consistently keep Pogo out just on a basis of spite or disapproval of his actions. Yes, he's not the most tactful member of the site, but he is passionate about the game and about Surfers. I saw a disservice (Pogo not being allowed to participate in Green Room discussions) and thought it should be brought up to debate.

Honestly, if a good number of non-Green Room, but active or senior, members feel that Pogo should be allowed in, it is a fair topic for debate.

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Jappie, you were a little rude to shimo there. Shimo, let the darned subject drop man. PoGo, left the forum and has created his own poker site. This makes it highly unlikely that he cares about the green room anymore and talking about this futher is pointless.

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But, to get on topic, PoGo decided to leave the forum and has done so. So what the hell is the point of this thread??
While it may be true that Pogo's decision to leave the forum would invalidate his case for Green Room membership, it does not define the call for a debate on the issue.

If Pogo was nominated on two separate occasions to be a member of the Green Room, and turned down twice, I think it stands to reason that the Green Room members must do more for Surfers than a member such as Pogo, does/did. I have not witnessed Pogo being an ill-steward of Surfers on any poker sites, and he generally makes a great endorsement of the site. For those reasons, I felt it was a good topic to bring up for debate. I was going to do it sooner, but I try to limit my Green Room comments to one thread per calendar year.

And, now that I've seen that Pogo is advertising his poker site in his signature, I am forced (by Pogo's actions) to retract my endorsement of him for Green Room admission.

Oh well... look for Green Room 2010... next year.

PS: I would appreciate if this thread isn't locked, as it does create a good starting point. Maybe others can post their thoughts on members who maybe warrant admission into the Green Room?
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I doubt this thread will get locked as long as a flame war doesn't break out or discussions that develope into advertisement. Despite popular belief, we don't close threads because the Green Room is mentioned but because usually a flame war breaks out.

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I doubt this thread will get locked as long as a flame war doesn't break out or discussions that develope into advertisement. Despite popular belief, we don't close threads because the Green Room is mentioned but because usually a flame war breaks out.
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Sir, I do not appreciate that at all. That was very disrespectful and rude. Feel free to reveiw all the old threads and see when the threads were locked.

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Jappie, given that the GreenRoom determines the direction of the site, I believe it's the business of everyone who is an active member of the Surfers community. Although I may not have a vote on who is admitted into the Green Room, it does not mean that my voice should not be heard.

As I said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the thread locked, as that was the outcome of "Pogo for the Green Room 2008." However, I do believe that it's a completely reasonable topic for discussion.

As for this counting against me in future nominations for the Green Room, that's fine with me. If the Green Room panelists feel that being vocal about ones opinions is a bad thing, then I'd be happy to be left off the Green Room roster.

Liberty comes with many responsibilities. One of those responsibilities is to make known any perceived transgressions against oneself, other individuals, or the masses as a whole.

If the Green Room really is merely a board upon which certain members are privy to posting about other members who they don't like as much, then so be it. However, I've always envisioned the Green Room as something better than that. I envision it as a sub-segment of the forum in which ideas, such as this one, are carefully considered and open to reasonable debate.

It is out of respect for the Green Room and its members that I put up this post to begin with. I didn't want to believe that the Green Room members would consistently keep Pogo out just on a basis of spite or disapproval of his actions. Yes, he's not the most tactful member of the site, but he is passionate about the game and about Surfers. I saw a disservice (Pogo not being allowed to participate in Green Room discussions) and thought it should be brought up to debate.

Honestly, if a good number of non-Green Room, but active or senior, members feel that Pogo should be allowed in, it is a fair topic for debate.



I was actually pretty sure that, although not a mod, Jappie was already a member of the Green Room.
You missed the point of my previous post here shimo. The fact that you feel like this subject should be your (and other senior member's) business, does not mean it is your business

the fact that you feel pogo's greenroom access should be open for debate does not mean the administrators think it should be open for debate. If venice thought that non-greenroomers were to have a say in topics like these, he would have made sure they would have a say in these things. however, venice wishes to give this privilege of voting people in to greenroomers only (in the greenroom), and keep those votes away from the public..

You all knew this already, as you made a similar thread about YOU thinking that pogo deserves greenroom access. that thread got locked, so i'm really wondering what purpose the starting of this thread serves as a similar attempt at what you're doing here failed, and you got berated for it...

I don't know what is discussed in the greenroom, and i really could care less what they talk about in there.. I highly doubt it's the place where members can talk trash about people like pogo. it's the feeling he got because he was not allowed in. Members on this site of who i know they are in the greenroom are people of whom i highly doubt that they would speak trash about other members.

I'm pretty sure this thread will get locked, like every other public thread that considers the greenroom. so again i'll speak out that i'm amazed that you even bothered starting this thread as you already know it will be closed because it contains subjects that should not be discussed on the forum open to the public.

greenroom membership is for people who are good active quality members who don't have such an outspoken opinion about other members, and are quite neutral for as far as non-pokerrelated stuff goes for as far as i know you are a quality member, but by bringing up subjects like these you are far from neutral on things like these..

Don't get me wrong if I were to decide who was in the greenroom, pogo would be in. He brings quality to the forum... besides that his social skills towards other members, have not been so strong, which i guess is the reason that he was not allowed in. pogo has spreaded an image of the greenroom that i do not believe in, but has influenced other people's views towards the greenroom
(as i see it you're leaning towards pogo's view of the greenroom being a place where members talk trash about the non-elite people)

The social skills is likely the reason for why pogo, me, and several other seniors have not been promoted to the greenroom (yet??) i shall admit i have gotten myself in the occasional flame wars etc.
My view on this differs from pogo's view, as i really don't care about greenroom access. as PB-SP-SC said, "surfers> greenroom". And that's what it's about

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Jappie, you were a little rude to shimo there. Shimo, let the darned subject drop man. PoGo, left the forum and has created his own poker site. This makes it highly unlikely that he cares about the green room anymore and talking about this futher is pointless.
sorry i fail to see how i was rude there, please elaborate

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Er, um, this green room everyone speaks of, just exactly what shade of green is it? It's really none of my business who's in the damn thing, but the not knowing the exact shade is killing me here.

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Its REALLY green . The greenest green you'll ever see !!
But don't forget the old saying "The grass is always greener in the green room" - which I think holds true on this occasion
what do you know about it....


it's obv blue, like the rest of the forum

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what do you know about it....


it's obv blue, like the rest of the forum
errr... I have pictures , actually

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errr... I have pictures , actually
yeah i see they didn't load before.


lol one should hit me unconscious before i'll sit down in a room that looks like that

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I wouldnt be so anxious to jump into the greenroom without knowing what it consisted of....first year may be nothing but doing Venice's laundry and carrying the pooper scooper after his bulldog....be careful what you wish for lol.
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Its REALLY green . The greenest green you'll ever see !!
But don't forget the old saying "The grass is always greener in the green room" - which I think holds true on this occasion
that pics looks like the main lobby from that hotel in GTA Vice City where you can save the game, by the beach!!!!

I can almost see Tommy Vercetti walking in to save the game!
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sorry i fail to see how i was rude there, please elaborate
Just the part of putting him in his place etc. Otherwise agreed with a lot of what you had to say!

 


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