Sit and Go Championship VI

[Venice]

The Sit and Go Championship is an official Surfers Poker event and there will be a title for the winner, plus buy-a-share access, plus a $20 prize

Please sign up in this thread, stating your online ID at either Stars or Full Tilt (one or the other, not both)
Note: Make sure that you are opted in on SharkScope to be eligible to be tracked.

Registration closes at 14:00 ET on Mon 9th Nov

The Championship will run from Tuesday 10th Nov until Sun 22nd Nov inclusive (PST)

All your 9 or 10-seater SNGs will be tracked. You do not need to report them, it will be done automatically. The member with the highest Average ROI will win. (Note: Any member who played less than 25 SNGs will be removed from consideration)

Anyone playing more than 100 SNGs will get 4% added to their final Average ROI
Anyone playing more than 200 SNGs will get 6% added to their final Average ROI
Anyone playing more than 500 SNGs will get 8% added to their final Average ROI

Regular updates of the table will be posted in this thread for all to see

If you would like to enter to repeat, sign-up below, stating your ID at either Stars or Full Tilt

Good Luck

[veidtmeister]

please delete this after its answered, but this is for one table sng's i guess, right? and don's dont count, or do they?

[Venice]

Originally Posted by veidtmeister

please delete this after its answered, but this is for one table sng's i guess, right? and don's dont count, or do they?

Did you even read the first post? - It's for 9/10 man SNGs

DONs fine, although obviously they are at a disadvantage in pure ROI% terms. Perhaps we need to double check on the average ROI calc though. DrJ do you remember whether any DON players dominated the top spots last time?

[Minipokerzin]

Venice does it need br to apply ?

[Venice]

Originally Posted by Minipokerzin

Venice does it need br to apply ?

You will need something to start off yes. I dont know how low the SNGs go in buy-ins. But say if it's $1.10, then you probably need a least about $6.60 BR.

[Minipokerzin]

hmm ok thanks

[PB-SP-SC]

Originally Posted by Minipokerzin

Venice does it need br to apply ?

you have to pay the buyins for what you playing, so you need a bankroll

but it doesnt matter that playing $1 is out of question, as what matters is the ROI ('retorno sobre o investimento'), so it doesnt matter if you're playing $1 or $100 buyin single tables

you'll be needing something around at least $25 to have a go for the sgn championship, considering you'll be playing $1.20 single table sit and go's



GLGLGL

[PB-SP-SC]

I'm in, btw

PB-SP-SC on stars

[Venice]

Originally Posted by PB-SP-SC

you'll be needing something around at least $25 to have a go for the sgn championship, considering you'll be playing $1.20 single table sit and go's

You dont rate his chances very highly then?

[Minipokerzin]

gl sal

[NDYL19]

Count me in

[PB-SP-SC]

Originally Posted by Venice

You dont rate his chances very highly then?

Originally Posted by Venice

The member with the highest Average ROI will win. (Note: Any member who played less than 25 SNGs will be removed from consideration)

are there $0.25 STTs, or any STT below $1 buy in??

[xzc32]

Im in

xzc32

[TomPerez]

TomPerez on Full Tilt. Lets go for some serious grinding those days, 500 stts shouldn't be that hard.

[Venice]

Originally Posted by PB-SP-SC

are there $0.25 STTs, or any STT below $1 buy in??

There might be.

About 6 buy-ins of whatever he chooses to play would be about the minimum BR needed to compete.

[DrJustice]

Ofcourse you can count me in.

I think the winning scores for last Championships are around 70 -100% which arent achieveble in DoN's. So i recommend playing regular STT's where winning is around 400% ROI.

[jappie007]

In

Jappie007 on stars

[xzc32]

Originally Posted by DrJustice

Ofcourse you can count me in.

I think the winning scores for last Championships are around 70 -100% which arent achieveble in DoN's. So i recommend playing regular STT's where winning is around 400% ROI.

All SnGs are tracked right? Then you can only play a maximum of 25 games, if you have a top ROI there than what are you gonna do the rest of the time?

[Venice]

Originally Posted by DrJustice

I think the winning scores for last Championships are around 70 -100% which arent achieveble in DoN's.

Probably quite on a par then (hot STT run vs hot DON run). A run good on the DONs of say about 19 wins from 25 probably equates to about 75% av ROI. According to the Sharkscope method?

Obviously if someone hits 100%+ from std STTs the DONs may struggle a bit shall we say.

[DrJustice]

Originally Posted by Venice

Probably quite on a par then (hot STT run vs hot DON run). A run good on the DONs of say about 19 wins from 25 probably equates to about 75% av ROI. According to the Sharkscope method?

Obviously if someone hits 100%+ from std STTs the DONs may struggle a bit shall we say.

I might be wrong but i think the max ROI of a DoN isnt 100%.
In example your playing a $5.20 DoN and you win $10 thats 92% ROI
If you win 19 of 25 the calculation is 19 x 92% = 1748% - 600% = 1148%
So this means an av ROI of roughly 46%

@xzc You can play over 25 games, Your average ROI will be calculated over all your games

ROI Calculation Thread For SNG Championship] Special thanks to Riverwheel

[Venice]

Btw, It was 20 min last time, with no volume bonuses.

Hopefully the higher minimum and the volume bonuses will pull in the gap a bit between volume and not. If no-one runs super lucky over the 25 then the volume guys will likely be able to push forwards on volume and remain competitive.

[Venice]

Originally Posted by DrJustice

I might be wrong but i think the max ROI of a DoN isnt 100%.
In example your playing a $5.20 DoN and you win $10 thats 92% ROI
If you win 19 of 25 the calculation is 19 x 92% = 1748% - 600% = 1148%
So this means an av ROI of roughly 46%

@xzc You can play over 25 games, Your average ROI will be calculated over all your games

ROI Calculation Thread For SNG Championship] Special thanks to Riverwheel

So their average ROI isnt just 1748/25 = 70%?

[DrJustice]

Originally Posted by Venice

So their average ROI isnt just 1748/25 = 70%?

If someone doesnt cash they score a -100% and not 0%, you might want to adjust the high volume a little bit

[Venice]

yep, makes sense. It wouldnt exactly be the fairest formula otherwise. Although I vaguely remember people moaning about it previously.

So essentially in conclusion DONs are going to be very reliant on a non hot run from the std STTs. Realistically you're going to be peddling up hill if you play them.

[Venice]

Originally Posted by Venice

Btw, It was 20 min last time, with no volume bonuses.

Hopefully the higher minimum and the volume bonuses will pull in the gap a bit between volume and not. If no-one runs super lucky over the 25 then the volume guys will likely be able to push forwards on volume and remain competitive.

I did consider taking this to 30 btw, but I dont know if that puts off the more occasional or social players...

[DrJustice]

Originally Posted by Venice

I did consider taking this to 30 btw, but I dont know if that puts off the more occasional or social players...

I think 25 is perfect, altough you might adjust the volume to like 5%, 10%, 15%

[xzc32]

Originally Posted by DrJustice

I think 25 is perfect, altough you might adjust the volume to like 5%, 10%, 15%

This plz If its changed it would be a lot of motivation to put in more than 500 games (at least for me). And the more casual single tablers could also manage. But yeah not my bussiness, gl everyone

[smitts_lgp]

im in

[HHF2000]

Full Tilt: Haloheadfire

[Venice]

Originally Posted by DrJustice

I think 25 is perfect, altough you might adjust the volume to like 5%, 10%, 15%

I'm a bit wary of making the bonuses too high as it feels like it's making it into too much of a volume contest. I did mull over making them higher, but it just didnt feel right to make them too high.

If someone hit 80% or whatever none of the bonuses are really going to help an STT volume player, even if they stretched to 40%. So it is more reliant on no-one running super hot over 25, and then maybe a volume guy thinking the percentage might be in range to make a push.

I will give a little thought to having a volume based bonus table that relates specifically to the ROI% at the top of the table at the mid way point in time.